U.S. Rep. Beto O’Rourke’s 16th Congressional District covers El Paso and far West Texas. He joins us to talk about his views on border security – and his plans to run against Sen. Ted Cruz in 2018. And later, Franklin Foer joins us to talk about the many retaliatory moves Mexico could make as relations with our southern neighbors devolve. His story “Mexico’s Revenge” appears in the May issue of The Atlantic.