Nationalism would seem to be at odds with an increasingly interconnected world. But throughout history, nation-states have always had to navigate a push-pull relationship with places beyond their borders. Thomas Meaney, a fellow at the Max Planck Institute for the Study of Religious and Ethnic Diversity in Göttingen, Germany, joins host Krys Boyd to talk about the history of military intervention, citizen uprisings, and the ideas around citizenship that define belonging in our world. His article published in The Point magazine is headlined “The Idea of a Nation.”