It’s important to sometimes log out and detach from the world, but is modern life so overwhelming that complete retreat feels like the only option? Kyle Chayka joins host Krys Boyd to discuss the barriers we put up to isolate ourselves from the world, why that’s caught on as a health craze, and how that disconnect might link to a more pessimistic outlook on life than we’d like to acknowledge. His article published in The New York Times Magazine is headlines “How Nothingness Became Everything We Wanted.”