Operation Lone Star has spent billions of dollars in funding to secure the border – but not all the money is being spent down south. Perla Trevizo is a reporter for the ProPublica-Texas Tribune Investigative Initiative, and she joins host Krys Boyd to discuss their investigation into Gov. Greg Abbott’s claims that 11,000 criminals have been arrested at the border, and where those border-security dollars and efforts are actually going. The Marshall Project article, co-authored with Lomi Kriel, is “Texas Says Its Multi-Billion Dollar Border Operation Is Working. The Evidence Tells a Different Story.”