The elite among us talk a big game when it comes to equality and justice – so long as it doesn’t threaten their place in the world order. Anand Giridharadas joins us to talk about the hypocrisy at play in our conversations about equality – and about how we can make our democracy actually work for more of its participants. His new book is called “Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World” (Knopf).