In 2012, ISIS began capturing journalists and aid workers in Syria. The governments of Germany, Denmark, France and Italy negotiated to free their hostages. The U.S. and U.K. did not, and theirs were executed. Joel Simon, executive director of the Committee to Protect Journalists, joins host Krys Boyd to talk about working through dozens of these impossible cases. His new book is called “We Want to Negotiate: The Secret World of Kidnapping, Hostages and Ransom” (Columbia Global Reports).